- Updated with a new image including the 6-carriage KTM Komuter trains!
- Updated with a new image showing LRT & MRT trains from Malaysia only!
TRANSIT has taken note of various comments & reports showcasing the advantages of the MRT over the LRT – as well as recent articles highlighting surveys by the Go-MRT group showing 93/95% support (depending on which article you read) for the MRT project.
When we see anecdotal comments such as these, we often wonder if the people who comment are really taking the time to understand the issue or simply responding to ‘themed’ questions in those surveys that can direct people towards certain answers (and therefore, direct the survey to certain results).
In other words, perhaps these surveys are ‘loaded’ because people do not really understand what the actual differences are.
This is the most dangerous sort of situation, where the public give their nearly-unconditional approval to projects (the more ‘mega’ the better) based on the assumption that the ‘investment’ is an improvement on what already exists.
Sometimes the differences are a lot smaller than people would think.
A few weeks ago, TRANSIT asked our favourite illustrator @Bukhrin (who has done some wonderful Klang Valley route maps for us) to help the public compare the MRT to the existing LRT system. @Bukhrin came up with this image shown below, which does a wonderful job of comparing the lengths of the six L and M “RT” trains that have operated or are proposed for the Klang Valley:
- Klang Valley MRT 4-carriage (proposed for “MRT” lines);
- ADtranz 3-carriage articulated EMU train (operating on Ampang Line);
- ADtranz 2-carriage articulated EMU train (operated on Ampang Line)
- Bombardier ART Mark II 4-carriage set (operating on Kelana Jaya line);
- Bombardier ART Mark II 2+2 carriage set (tested on Kelana Jaya Line);
- Bombardier ART Mark II 2-carriage (operating on Kelana Jaya Line).
Click here for a larger version of the image above.
More information after the jump!
The first train is the proposed rolling stock for the Sg. Buloh – Kajang line. This train has 4 carriages and is 89100 mm (89.1 m) in length. The width is 3.1 m
The next train is the Ampang Line LRT train. This train is formed of 3 articulated (meaning one bogey is shared between two segments) carriages and is approximately 84000 mm (84.0 m) in length. We will update the image once we have the most accurate information.
A smaller version of the Ampang Line LRT train was formed of 2 articulated carriages and was approximately 56000 mm (56.0 m) in length.
Finally, the image shows the LRT trains for the Kelana Jaya line. First, the new 4-carriage LRT train, which is 67100 mm (67.1 m) in length.
The second Kelana Jaya line train is a 4-carriage trainset formed of 2 units of 2-carriage (2+2) Kelana Jaya LRT trains, which is 67400 mm (67.4 m) in length. This type of train does not operate in revenue service (carrying passengers) on the Kelana Jaya line but such a train can be formed if necessary, such as this 4-carriage train from Vancouver’s Skytrain (which uses the same ART Mark II trains as the Kelana Jaya line in Kuala Lumpur).
Finally, we include the basic 2-carriage Kelana Jaya LRT train, the Bombardier ART Mark II at 33700 mm (33.7 m) in length.
All ART Mark II trains are 2.65 m in width.
What about KTM Komuter trains?
@Bukhrin also sent us this new image, showing a new 6-carriage KTM Komuter train alongside the MRT & LRT trains. We might even get some more images from him if we ask nicely!
In case you are wondering, the KTM Komuter train is 138600 mm (138.6 m) in length. That is the same length as a ‘typical’ MRT train – so this diagram shows us what our 4-carriage MRT will look like in comparison to a ‘typical’ 6-carriage MRT.
If you cannot see any clear images, click here for a larger version of the image above.
The Original Image:
@Bukhrin’s original drawing compared an Alstom C830 Metropolis train, currently being used on the City Circle Line in Singapore, with the proposed MRT and existing Kelana Jaya LRT line trains.
The Alstom Metropolis train has 3 carriages and is 70100 mm (70.1 m) in length.
Click here for a larger version of the image above.
So what can we learn from all of this?
Well, we at TRANSIT were surprised to learn that our MRT trains would only be 4 carriages in length as we were expecting that with all the hype, the MRT would be something quite different from the existing LRT trains.
To many Malaysians the phrase “MRT” refers to what they see in other countries, namely Singapore (our nearest neighbour with an urban rail system).MRT or Mass-Rapid Transit (also referred to as “subway” in North America, “metro” in many European countries, and interestingly enough, “MTR” – for Mass-Transit Rail – in Hong Kong) to most people refers to trains composed of 6 or 7 carriages (usually 22-24 meters in length) with total train length of 135-140m.
For information on common passenger-rail terminology click here.
The image designed by @bukhrin shows very clearly that there is little difference in terms of length between our existing LRT trains and the proposed Sg. Buloh – Kajang MRT rolling stock. In some cases, the difference in width is not that great either.
Which begs the question, what is the big deal about the MRT anyways? And why do we have to pay so much more for it?